SWG: Evolve Forums

NORD, post: 705, member: 16 wrote:

I think you might be taking this a little too seriously.

If you don't want pvp, don't flag up or enter a pvp zone, and don't double click Jedi. It's really a simple as that.

To add to that, you could also remain neutral as a crafter or ent so that flagging up isn't even a possibility.

Except it doesn't take a double click, does it? One, single click, that's all. To attack any other target in this game, it takes a double. To attack a player in a PVP zone in any other version of this game, including back in live, it takes/took a double.

NORD, post: 716, member: 16 wrote:

There's no exploiting going on and dying in swg has zero negative consequences on the player. Furthermore, you have to attack the jedi first in order for them to attack you.

It's an entirely voluntary and opt-in system for both parties.

I'm giving the facts as they are and not dramatizing the incident(s). Please stop attributing meaning where there isn't any.

NO, it's not a voluntary opt-in system, it's a system where one, single, accidental click can throw you into it.

A trader gets off a shuttle, sees a force sensitive battle going on at approximately their 8 to 9 o'clock position, runs forward and then veers to the left to reach the nearest exit in the city square. Rather than going on with their battle, the force sensitives follow said trader. The trader deploys their vehicle, goes to click on it to enter, and one force sensitive steps between their cursor and their vehicle. That's not voluntary, in the real world that approximates a brief loss of balance that leads to accidentally brushing up against a person on the sidewalk and then getting a beat down for it. If you can't see that, might I suggest touching grass more often?

Cailener1234, post: 697, member: 548 wrote:

Here is an additional idea that I just thought of that can be a compromise and be much simpler.

Instead of making it an ability or status that you toggle on or off, tie it into a jewelry set, labeled the Pacifist’s Set, which would be No Trade and Unique.

Since the discussion is surrounding more of the TEF system and not so much PvP in general since the game itself already makes it abundantly clear on your status, the 5 piece set bonus would grant a permanent buff/status that the wearer would be considered not affected by TEF while in turn keeping that player affected by the existing PvP zones.

The following condition to even wear the set at any given time would be to have a minimum of any of the 3 master class boxes checked under entertainer or crafting trees. To make this streamlined, 2 sets of these would be created. One for the Crafting side, One for the Entertainer side.

Each of these sets would cost 10 tokens each.

If any of the 3 master boxes are unclicked, then that person would lose the ability to wear the set pieces until they would have any 3 boxes again.

Why not just tie it to the existing crafters' and entertainer sets? If X=at least one piece of jewelry and Y=two or more masters completions, then Z. That way, both professions wouldn't have to constantly be switching between sets. It doesn't however protect the people fresh off the transport, so a notification on the launcher or something would certainly be nice. My original toon was born on live before jedi were a thing so I fell in love with a game that didn't have them, and they've never held much interest for me. Needless to say, I didn't realize that reading up on their care and feeding was a requirement.

I also have a question. Is all PVP initiated here with a single click?