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    Carista
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    Malakavion, post: 212, member: 144 wrote:

    I can see where the confusion came in here, BH and PvP are two swperate systems, yes. However, what I am suggesting is using the BH toggle option, to allow players to be able to hunt you as a bh regardless of moral or factional choices, as well as toggling permaflagging/factional kills before receiving a bounty are applied..... ie. With it off you are safe from having bounties applied, and can grind GCW as you see fit with no real repercussions as you can now. For those with a PvP itch however, toggling it on allows players to place a bounty on you at any time, while also permaflagging players as SF once certain GCW ranks are reached, in this state killing so many GCW npc's will flag the player as SF, if such a rank to be automatically flagged has not been reached, with the possibility of a bounty being automatically being placed on your head as well for killing x amount of GCW targets.

    OK, what you are essentially proposing is reintroducing the TEF as outlined here: https://www.raphkoster.com/2015/04/15/star-wars-galaxies-tefs/. This caused so many edge cases that could give you a TEF, that they did away with it and replaced the entire TEF with, for all intents and purposes, a switch. Meaning that you were opt-out of PvP at any given time and had to actively switch to being combatant (covert) or Special Forces (overt).
    I suggest taking the discussion about that to a different thread and leave it out of the BH system thread. It makes the discussion about BH system way to complicated, especially if it is meant to be tied in with the GCW (coming down against that, but not going into that here and now).
    As for the BH System to opt-in using a switch (or command); yes please. I prefer opt-in to opt-out anyway. 🙂

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      Carista, post: 213, member: 399 wrote:

      OK, what you are essentially proposing is reintroducing the TEF as outlined here: https://www.raphkoster.com/2015/04/15/star-wars-galaxies-tefs/. This caused so many edge cases that could give you a TEF, that they did away with it and replaced the entire TEF with, for all intents and purposes, a switch. Meaning that you were opt-out of PvP at any given time and had to actively switch to being combatant (covert) or Special Forces (overt).
      I suggest taking the discussion about that to a different thread and leave it out of the BH system thread. It makes the discussion about BH system way to complicated, especially if it is meant to be tied in with the GCW (coming down against that, but not going into that here and now).
      As for the BH System to opt-in using a switch (or command); yes please. I prefer opt-in to opt-out anyway. 🙂

      Bh system is already an opt-in/out like system. I think you’re just missing the entire discussion here and throwing whatever you want into play.

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        Carista
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        Griffy, post: 214, member: 386 wrote:

        Bh system is already an opt-in/out like system. I think you’re just missing the entire discussion here and throwing whatever you want into play.

        OK, I can't hold it; where did you find this information? Because on live, the BH system was never opt-out. It was forced on the hunted by placing a bounty of 20K or higher. For the BH it was opt-in as it was their primary source of jobs, but for the rest it forced on them.

        I'm sorry to say, but your reaction sounds like that of a man not being able to deal with valid points of insight. You, my good sir/madam, need to point out where the information about the BH system as you claim is being provided. Because it most certainly is not (!) being provided in this thread, just claimed by you. So, provide some evidence that supports your claim.

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          Griffy
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          Carista, post: 215, member: 399 wrote:

          OK, I can't hold it; where did you find this information? Because on live, the BH system was never opt-out. It was forced on the hunted by placing a bounty of 20K or higher. For the BH it was opt-in as it was their primary source of jobs, but for the rest it forced on them.

          I'm sorry to say, but your reaction sounds like that of a man not being able to deal with valid points of insight. You, my good sir/madam, need to point out where the information about the BH system as you claim is being provided. Because it most certainly is not (!) being provided in this thread, just claimed by you. So, provide some evidence that supports your claim.

          Maybe if you’d take a portion of that super powered brain, that can remember so much from “live,” and directed it towards the patch notes you could find the changes without looking silly. But I’ll break it down Barney style and highlight them for you.

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            Carista
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            Griffy, post: 216, member: 386 wrote:

            Maybe if you’d take a portion of that super powered brain, that can remember so much from “live,” and directed it towards the patch notes you could find the changes without looking silly. But I’ll break it down Barney style and highlight them for you.

            Right, looks like you might want to direct a portion of your brain to reading: it states Place a bounty.

            I'm not expecting any answer on this as I am not enganging any further in a childish discussion.

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              Carista, post: 218, member: 399 wrote:

              Right, looks like you might want to direct a portion of your brain to reading: it states Place a bounty.

              I'm not expecting any answer on this as I am not enganging any further in a childish discussion.

              There is no other way to get bountied if you aren’t PvPing, hence why they go hand in hand.

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                Griffy, post: 219, member: 386 wrote:

                There is no other way to get bountied if you aren’t PvPing, hence why they go hand in hand.

                Also hence why they stated, much like the current opt-in system, in which you blatantly disregarded by saying it’s not an opt-in system.

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                  Carista, post: 215, member: 399 wrote:

                  OK, I can't hold it; where did you find this information? Because on live, the BH system was never opt-out. It was forced on the hunted by placing a bounty of 20K or higher. For the BH it was opt-in as it was their primary source of jobs, but for the rest it forced on them.

                  I'm sorry to say, but your reaction sounds like that of a man not being able to deal with valid points of insight. You, my good sir/madam, need to point out where the information about the BH system as you claim is being provided. Because it most certainly is not (!) being provided in this thread, just claimed by you. So, provide some evidence that supports your claim.

                  this is the stuff that kills the fun in pvp, you literally said that you wont ever flag up or bounty hunt planet side, If you dont have anything productive or helpful to add, kindly take it to another suggestion :). There is literally no point to you finding and creating arguments where there isnt any. So again I want to hear feedback and how everyone feels, but you arguing over nonsense over and over about the fine point of this thread title (3 words) isnt helping anyone and just creating drama.

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                    When the BH system was reintroduced to the NGE. BHs were able to attack each other if they had the same contract.

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                      StukaAttacks, post: 233, member: 38 wrote:

                      When the BH system was reintroduced to the NGE. BHs were able to attack each other if they had the same contract.

                      Source? I was a BH on live from Pre-CU until the servers shut down, and often would group hunt the tougher targets but was never able to attack my fellow BHs

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                        EllasDad, post: 235, member: 365 wrote:

                        Source? I was a BH on live from Pre-CU until the servers shut down, and often would group hunt the tougher targets but was never able to attack my fellow BHs

                        You can't attack/hunt group members

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