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    Griffy
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    I hadn't looked, was just wondering if they were the same. Couldn't remember if just flawless were on there or not. But I would say add them to FRS as well if they are to get added to a vendor.

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      NORD
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      I agree that if perfect crystals get added to a vendor, it should be to the FRS vendor

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        Siddvicious
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        NORD, post: 2429, member: 16 wrote:

        I agree that if perfect crystals get added to a vendor, it should be to the FRS vendor

        That would make them available only to those that PVP FRS. Not everyone wants to do that.

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          NORD
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          Siddvicious, post: 2430, member: 784 wrote:

          That would make them available only to those that PVP FRS. Not everyone wants to do that.

          What if someone doesn't want to engage with the chronicles system? Same argument, but reversed.

          Perfect power crystals should be a chase item and require time and effort, not just mindlessly completing chronicles quests.

          If you want a pve solution, gate them behind world boss tokens.

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            Rezec
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            Things on the FRS vendor are available to anyone to wants to buy them from an FRS Jedi. It's okay for some things to be exclusive to PvP or PvE and then buy/sell via players. That's part of a sandbox economy.

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              Siddvicious
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              NORD, post: 2431, member: 16 wrote:

              What if someone doesn't want to engage with the chronicles system? Same argument, but reversed.

              Perfect power crystals should be a chase item and require time and effort, not just mindlessly completing chronicles quests.

              If you want a pve solution, gate them behind world boss tokens.

              Fair enough. That I can agree with.

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                mediocrebh
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                The best crystals drop from the RLS crates

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                  NORD
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                  mediocrebh, post: 2434, member: 284 wrote:

                  The best crystals drop from the RLS crates

                  Well there we go. Is there a reason to also add then to a vendor?

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                    Siddvicious
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                    mediocrebh, post: 2434, member: 284 wrote:

                    The best crystals drop from the RLS crates

                    Truth, and I did get one very early on in WB. However it has been a while
                    since I've seen one

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                      mediocrebh
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                      The ones in the crate are better than the vendor

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                        mediocrebh
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                        Vendor I think is 22/23 and the crate is 24/25

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                          AznablZ
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                          20/22 are at the Vendor

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                            Griffy
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                            Ahh gotcha, yeah I don't think things that empower characters in PvP etc. should only be earnable in a PvE rng loot. Every server seems to think adding 50 things to bosses makes the game more enjoyable but it just becomes a chore.

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                              Griffy
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                              NORD, post: 2435, member: 16 wrote:

                              Well there we go. Is there a reason to also add then to a vendor?

                              There is in fact a reason to add them to vendors as an extra source to prevent RNG gating something, just has to be the appropriate vendor. For example, beyond has an issue where there's 9000 buffs that are tied to legendary content and people are just W keying with 50 buff rows they got from PvE.

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                                Straton
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                                I think 100 gold chronicles is a more than fair pve alternative to these (for instance I have 7 gold chronicles, but near 200 FRS tokens despite already buying some things)

                                If there was regularly active pvp I'd say it's fine as is, but pvp has been extremely niche here for probably half a year. If the people that wanted this wanted to pvp, and I personally wish everyone pvped to some degree, they already would be.

                                In general I think small adjustments that improve the gaming lives of those that support the server (IE, those that donate/ run strangers through heroics even though they don't need them) and anything that promotes growth/ retention are pretty logical measures at this stage.

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                                  Rezec
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                                  Currently the highest tier crystal for sell on the FRS vendor is equal to the ancient krayt pearls. PvP is not the only option for attaining that power level. The only tier higher is from the World Boss crates. Any vendor that would have those would diminish the usefulness of running world bosses regularly.

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                                    NORD
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                                    Straton, post: 2458, member: 1247 wrote:

                                    I think 100 gold chronicles is a more than fair pve alternative to these (for instance I have 7 gold chronicles, but near 200 FRS tokens despite already buying some things)

                                    If there was regularly active pvp I'd say it's fine as is, but pvp has been extremely niche here for probably half a year. If the people that wanted this wanted to pvp, and I personally wish everyone pvped to some degree, they already would be.

                                    In general I think small adjustments that improve the gaming lives of those that support the server (IE, those that donate/ run strangers through heroics even though they don't need them) and anything that promotes growth/ retention are pretty logical measures at this stage.

                                    Chronicles could be easily cheesed/farmed for this and would be a terrible gameplay loop/gate for perfect saber crystals.

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                                      AznablZ
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                                      Rezec, post: 2459, member: 1 wrote:

                                      Currently the highest tier crystal for sell on the FRS vendor is equal to the ancient krayt pearls. PvP is not the only option for attaining that power level. The only tier higher is from the World Boss crates. Any vendor that would have those would diminish the usefulness of running world bosses regularly.

                                      The Ancient Krayt pearls that I have gotten have not been on par with the FRS vendor. In fact, they have been lower.

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                                        Rezec
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                                        This is the cap on the Ancient Flawless. Many of us were out there every night grinding away when we first hit Jedi. You want get a perfect tune everytime. I had many that were at 20/22 which is what the FRS vendor crystals offer before I managed to get these.

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                                          Rezec
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                                          All that aside, I do want to reiterate on something since this has been quite awhile. That vendor did NOT launch with those power crystals. The pricing is not an indicator of "we think these are worth 200 FRS/4 straight weeks of pvp". These were added at a time when most of the current Jedi already had their flawless krayt pearls and when people had excess tokens to burn. So we added them at an insane price to burn tokens and give people something extra to sell.

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