Delete Lyase Enzymes RNG!

[Ykeer]

Lyase Enzymes in my opinion, are a perfect example of something this server aims to eliminate. There is no skill involved, and fully AFK encouraging. My proposal is to make ATK foraging result in *only* 11 point Lyase.

Reasoning for only dropping capped Lyase - *Most* serious BE's will only use 11's, and it is not a matter of luck, skill, or investment. Simply a matter of how much AFK macro'ing did you do yesterday?

To my knowledge this is a harmless change, that just removes tedium (and AFK farming, no one does foraging for lyases ATK.). Who's with me?

 

[SideshowBob]

I 2nd this, or at least make forage pig guarantee you to get 11's (since its a pain to get) if code doesn't warrant Removal of RNG.

 

[Vikingmando]

Lyase Enzymes in my opinion, are a perfect example of something this server aims to eliminate. There is no skill involved, and fully AFK encouraging. My proposal is to make ATK foraging result in *only* 11 point Lyase.

Reasoning for only dropping capped Lyase - *Most* serious BE's will only use 11's, and it is not a matter of luck, skill, or investment. Simply a matter of how much AFK macro'ing did you do yesterday?

To my knowledge this is a harmless change, that just removes tedium (and AFK farming, no one does foraging for lyases ATK.). Who's with me?

I'll 3rd this but play devils advocate at the same time.

While I want to see this change come to fruition, do you not foresee this causing a devaluation on the value of a capped pet?

 

[Ykeer]

I'll 3rd this but play devils advocate at the same time.

While I want to see this change come to fruition, do you not foresee this causing a devaluation on the value of a capped pet?

There is no rarity to 11's, unless you are in a rush I suppose. Only barrier to them is "time AFK'd" Hydros are where the value is imho.

 

[Oujii2]

Maybe make the lyase an item that can be purchased on the trades vendor for a small to moderate fee to eliminate some of the tedium fatigue and also give something more to get off the trader vendor ?

 

[Ykeer]

Maybe make the lyase an item that can be purchased on the trades vendor for a small to moderate fee to eliminate some of the tedium fatigue and also give something more to get off the trader vendor ?

Primary reasoning for this method is ease of implementation

 

[Oujii2]

Primary reasoning for this method is ease of implementation

Exactly , I think in that aspect it would be easier to add to vendor than to take out and change anywhere else .

 

[Vikingmando]

There is no rarity to 11's, unless you are in a rush I suppose. Only barrier to them is "time AFK'd" Hydros are where the value is imho

Agreed. Time investment definitely does not trump difficulty of acquisition. I 100% support the change.

 

[Chavex]

What about a way to recraft/combine your sub 11 enzymes. Like an enzyme combination tool or something. Doesn't really change the AFK stuff, but gives the option to ATK and utilize the crap enzymes into 11's or so

 

[Oujii2]

What about a way to recraft/combine your sub 11 enzymes. Like an enzyme combination tool or something. Doesn't really change the AFK stuff, but gives the option to ATK and utilize the crap enzymes into 11's or so

Ooo this i like to ..

 

[Vikingmando]

What about a way to recraft/combine your sub 11 enzymes. Like an enzyme combination tool or something. Doesn't really change the AFK stuff, but gives the option to ATK and utilize the crap enzymes into 11's or so

definitely a good alternative suggestion. I would say it would come down at this point to which is the easier to implement or change.

 

[SideshowBob]

What about a way to recraft/combine your sub 11 enzymes. Like an enzyme combination tool or something. Doesn't really change the AFK stuff, but gives the option to ATK and utilize the crap enzymes into 11's or so

Nice Idea and takes less messing with the code

 

[Ykeer]

What about a way to recraft/combine your sub 11 enzymes. Like an enzyme combination tool or something. Doesn't really change the AFK stuff, but gives the option to ATK and utilize the crap enzymes into 11's or so

SWG code doesn't like this kind of thinking haha

 

[SideshowBob]

I'll 3rd this but play devils advocate at the same time.

While I want to see this change come to fruition, do you not foresee this causing a devaluation on the value of a capped pet?

Not really devaluing a pet because Hydro's still take so much to make its not funny.

 

[Fyrakin]

I can look into script for /forage, it shouldn't be hard to implement this change, I think it follows Evolve way.

 

[Fyrakin]

Change could be made in \dsrc-master\sku.0\sys.server\compiled\game\script\library\loot.java
This fragment start at line 2087

            if (enzymRoll <= enzymeMod)
            {
                CustomerServiceLog("foraging", "Player: " + getName(player) + " OID: " + player + " rolled " + enzymRoll + " and received an enzyme.");
                forage_blog("rareObject reward: enzyme");
                obj_id enzyme = createObject("object/tangible/loot/beast/enzyme_2.iff", pInv, "");
                sendSystemMessage(player, FOUND_ENZYME);
                saveForageLocationOnPlayer(player, newListOfLocs, curLoc);
                buffRoll = true;
            }

after enzyme created check if player ATK and modify stats

 

[EllasDad]

Change could be made in \dsrc-master\sku.0\sys.server\compiled\game\script\library\loot.java
This fragment start at line 2087

            if (enzymRoll <= enzymeMod)
            {
                CustomerServiceLog("foraging", "Player: " + getName(player) + " OID: " + player + " rolled " + enzymRoll + " and received an enzyme.");
                forage_blog("rareObject reward: enzyme");
                obj_id enzyme = createObject("object/tangible/loot/beast/enzyme_2.iff", pInv, "");
                sendSystemMessage(player, FOUND_ENZYME);
                saveForageLocationOnPlayer(player, newListOfLocs, curLoc);
                buffRoll = true;
            }

after enzyme created check if player ATK and modify stats

And while we are messing with code, could we go ahead and code in Lyase 12s?

 

[Fyrakin]

I'm not sure its a good idea to be honest

 

[Ykeer]

I'm not sure its a good idea to be honest

The lyase 12?

 

[Fyrakin]

yes